Episode 37: Relational Intelligence God’s Way with Ken Sande

Ken discusses ways to improve our relational wisdom and peacemaking skills so that we can better love one another.


Episode 37: Ken Sande


How can we improve our ability to anticipate and resolve relational conflicts? In episode 37, Robert speaks with Ken Sande, the founder of Peacemaker Ministries and Relational Wisdom 360 (RW360). Over the course of his career as a lawyer and professional mediator, Ken has mediated hundreds of conflicts in familial, business, church, and legal settings. Classical ConversationsĀ® Challenge B families should be especially excited to hear this episode because Ken is also the author of the bestselling book The Peacemaker: A Biblical Guide to Resolving Conflict, a recommended resource for parents of students enrolled in our Challenge B program. Here, Ken discusses ways to improve our relational wisdom and peacemaking skills so that we can better love one another. After the interview, Robert uses the fifteen classical tools to analyze studentsā€™ low math and reading proficiencies and then introduces two proposed bills that could ban the U.S. government from creating its own central bank digital currency (CBDC).


ā€œAll of life is basically about loving God with all our heart, mind, strength, and soul, and loving othersā€”engaging others as we love and engage ourselves. So, those two great commandments Jesus summarized are basically the essence of relational wisdom: loving God and loving others as ourselves.ā€

Ken Sande


  • Intro to Ken Sande [1:10]
  • How Ken went from pursuing a career in mechanical engineering to serving in ministry [2:07]
  • Founding Peacemaker Ministries and Relational Wisdom 360 [4:05]
  • What are emotional intelligence and relational wisdom? [6:33]
  • The three paradigms of relational wisdom: being self-aware, others-aware, and God-aware [8:34]
  • The six relational disciplines taught at RW360 [9:26]
  • Which discipline is the most important? [11:10]
  • Ways (with easy acrostics) to improve your relational wisdom [12:19]
  • The four Gā€™s of peacemaking and the seven Aā€™s of confession [19:42]
  • How to deal with being reluctant to confess wrongdoing [24:35]
  • The most common cause leading to broken relationships [26:50]
  • How social media has contributed to relational hurt [29:17]
  • What authors and resources have most impacted Ken and his ministry [30:10]
  • RW360ā€™s 2023 Annual Conference [32:24]
  • What Ken is working on now: bringing relational wisdom training to military chaplains and creating secular versions of the relational wisdom training materials for workplaces and families [33:33]
  • Farewell to Ken [35:47]
  • ā€œCurrent Event Discussionā€:  Students with no proficiency in math or reading? [36:22]
  • Notice: School Vouchers [38:58]
  • ā€œClassical Crypto:ā€ Proposed bans against a CBDC [40:18]
  • Outro [43:49]